I obtained this set at an estate sale. It is just a delicate set that appealed to me. Can you tell me its age and value if any? I just loved the look.
I believe this pattern is as notedonntge bottom, NORITAKE Savannah Pattern #2031 and you gave a Footed Cup. The pattern was made from the late 1960s thru the early 1990s.
I hope cybergrannie weighs in because she has a lot of knowledge on dishes and may know how I determine the year.
The cup and saucer set just sold recently on eBay for 4.99 for two how and two saucers. That is today's current market value!
Pretty pattern! I can see why you love it!!
Noritake made beautiful china.
Your set has the N in the marking but it was was used for several years. Everything about a marking has meaning - the (r) for registered first appeared in 1954 and was used a lot but not on all china.
"There are over 400 known Noritake backstamps with a variety of patterns, so it's difficult to identify the exact date of origin for many collectible Noritake sets."
This particular marking with the N was made in color for many years but changed to black (like yours) in 1969 and was used through 1991 so that is really as close a date Noritake has. Their records will show dates the #2031 was made and that shows 1969-1991.
If you are asking about value - the best place for that is to go to eBay's sold listings as only a sold piece will give you current value - asking prices are what a seller would like to receive for their item.
www.ebay.com/
You can check asking prices at numerous sites:
The age of the China has already been determined so there is no need to tell you this one again. You are asking about the value of the China which is very low right now. Some pieces are selling for as little as $3 to $5. The value of China would depend on how large the set is and if there are extra pieces like serving bowles or platters.
Noritake only made 'matching' glasses for a few patterns.
Noritake did not have glasses in Savannah and only made a few sets that actually had any resemblance to the pattern.
Most of their glassware was just a simple design and listed with a pattern.
A few did match patterns - Rose & Odessa were 2 patterns - but you can look at their glassware on eBay & Etsy as most of their glass patterns are listed.
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I have 28 pcs of Noritake china, the Barrymore pattern that I would like to sell. What would it be worth?
eBay solds will tell you what they are selling for in today's market.
For example, dinner plates are selling for 9.50 each + shipping.
A lidded sugar bowl is going for 18.00 + shipping.
Salad plates go for about $2.50 each + shipping.
Selling as a set as a whole may be a challenge because people usually just want to replace one piece from their existing set.
If you are an experienced eBay seller, I suggest selling off the set in small lots--like 2 plates, 2 cups/saucers, and any extras like sugar bowl is the best way and will probably fetch you the most money in the long run--but it is a VERY SLOW process and can take months and months and months to liquidate the set.
If you are NOT an experienced eBay seller,you maybe best served by working with a local retail/ consignment store to sell them for you.
You could always try to sell them as a lot through Replacements.com (I love selling to them--but they don't pay a lot--but they do pay and they often take multiple pieces if they are buying.
The challenge right now is that shipping is a huge issue with the post office in the US. While it will cost more to ship them outside of the USPS, you may want to talk to Fed Ex or UPS and have them pack and ship for you--so you get insurance. These are super fragile and you need them packed correctly so they don't get to where they are going in a million pieces.
Post back what you decide and how your sale goes!
Can anyone give me an idea of the value of an entire set of these Noritake dishes? I am considering selling them.
Hi, I have inherited from my parents a 12 place setting of Noritake China 176133 pattern; along with 2 tureens with lids, gravy boat, salt & pepper pots, large oval meat dish and a smaller one, and a teapot. Please could you tell me what they're worth roughly as probably looking to sell as not used and stuck in a cupboard. Many thanks.
I have a few pieces of china I found in a shed. Not sure how much they go for and wanna sell them. Can yall help me out?
These items form part of a set of china that my parents owned. There were also round and oval plates, and a gravy boat. There is only a backstamp, with no reference to pattern name or number. I identified from one website that this backstamp was used in 1963? But haven't been able to link the pattern through images I've seen. The closest I've seen is Royal Claret. Could someone help me with the pattern name and if these pieces are worth anything at all?
Cheers.
I have done a search on the wide red band with the gold trim around the band and edges. I found a site that goes into detail about this type of design. Your design is not listed at all in the chain that was made. They explained that this set could be one of the more recent designs or one of the unidentified designs out there. Considering you said that it was made around 1963 this would be one of the more recent designs out there. In this case, they suggest that you take the plate or a piece of china to an antique dealer in your area. The antique dealer might be able to identify this pattern. If not then it will fall under the patters that have never been identified.
Can anyone provide the name of this Noritake china or maybe when it was made?
Thanks.
The mark on the back of your dinner plate Large, gold M or other colored M encircled by a wreath. This M stood for their namesake, Morimura, and was used until World War II. I can tell you when it was made or approximately when it was made. They started to use this marking in 1911 and they continued to use it until WWII. I am not finding the name of the china only the time period that it was made in.
The name of the pattern is Roseleigh. You can see it on Replacements.com to confirm.
I have a complete service for 12 of Noritake china, Silver Key pattern, that I bought in Japan on R and R in 1969. It has been used a total of 4 times. What would be the approximate value of this, if it has any at all?
My cousin has a set of this pattern. I think it might be the Claytonpattern, but the stamp doesn't match the ones I've found online. Could you help me with the identification, including age and value?
This does seem to be named 'Clayton' as Replacements is famous for their knowledge of china patterns.
For a general idea of the value of individual pieces you can see what they have listed for sale:
www.replacements.com/
They are closed at the present time but here is a link where you can send your pictures and questions after April 1st. They will need to know the number of place settings and any accessorizes available and will tell you if they are interested in buying this set. Their price will be low but it will give you a starting point of true value (they may not be interested in buying - that would be sad as it would indicate it is not considered even a medium seller).
"The wreath element in the mark was used from circa 1914 until 1940. Some Noritake china has the word "Nippon" on it however that would be used only until 1921 when import rules required the use of the word "Japan" on such export items. The Noritake stamp was presented in green, blue, gold, and magenta.
From 1921 until World War II, Noritake pieces were stamped with "Japan" or "Made in Japan"."
There is a lot of history behind Noritake - different names/different marks all mean something so be sure when doing research you get everything exactly as this set.
The mark on this china indicates it was produced from 1914 through 1940. It may be difficult to pinpoint the exact date this pattern was produced.
Here is a link to another site that may be interested in buying this set. Contact them through this link:
www.robbinsnest.com/
You can always do research online but asking prices are not current value prices and you may not find a 'sold' set of this pattern.
Another member - Pghgirl - will check this out and provide a lot more information on true value and selling this set.
cybergrannie gave you lots of great info!! I did an image search on Replacements and they have 3 versions of the pattern--what I have found it this is how they differentiate the ones they can pinpoint the year from the ones that they can't.
Here is the link for what I am seeing:
www.replacements.com/
Some people prefer the older versions because the colors were better and they want their sets to match--like my beloved Homer Laughlin pieces there were often slight color and even very slight pattern variations when they reproduced patterns year over over year.
As for value, there are no sold examples in recent months and many unsold examples with plates/bowls at an average of 7.00 each, serving pieces an average of $40 each, and multi-piece sets in the range of $600 each. This is on eBay US and eBay UK.
The market was soft for chinaware BEFORE the coronavirus crisis...now it has almost ceased.
If you are asking to sell, look at all of the unsold prices and try to sell yours starting at 1/4 to 1/2 off the UNSOLD prices.
Not a good time to sell. Maybe when the world settles and right before the Thanksgiving holiday you can see if you can fetch more for them.
They are very pretty!! Cheerful!!
Thanks for this information.
One of my biggest 'complaints' with Replacements is that they rarely show the marks on their china (or other items). "
Several years ago I asked this question and they replied that showing marks seemed to generate too many questions so they only show marks when someone specifically asks for this. But - you have to show the marks when you ask them a question.
I thought this pattern seemed familiar so checked my notes and found a response from Replacements:
"The name of the pattern is indeed Clayton (all same "pattern") but there are several versions (probably made at different locations) so we numbered the less popular styles and made notes of the differences."
They did not mentioned marks so not sure about that.
I thought the dishes marked 'Clayton' was her set because it seems to have gold trim but when looking at their listings again I see they state made 1951-1952 but when doing research this mark does not show that. So - either there were reproductions made with this mark in 1951-1952 (which is highly unlikely) or Reproductions has made an 'error'.
They do make errors but usually quickly correct them when a correction is requested (with documentation of course).
Here is what each pattern shows:
notice difference in color of leaves and gold trim vs gray trim.
Clayton
by Noritake
Item#: 65846 Pattern Code: N CLAY
Description: Pink Flowers/Gray Leaves, Asymmetrical
Pattern Number: 502
Pattern: Clayton by Noritake
Status: Discontinued. Actual: 1951 1952
N517
by Noritake
Item#: 68152 Pattern Code: N N517
Description: Pink And Yellow Flo Wers, Gray Trim
Pattern: N517 by Noritake
Status: Discontinued.
Item#: 138062 Pattern Code: N N1166
Description: Pink&Yellow Flowers, Gold Trim
Pattern: N1166 by Noritake
Right now, I'm not sure which code this set would fall under but I will discuss the 1951-1952 years when they are up and running again.
I hope some of this information is what someone is looking for but as Pghgirl always says;
"Thanks for asking this interesting question and let us know what you find out."
My father has a 12-piece place set with serving extras from the 1950's. Purchased from the manufacturer.
How can I get an estimated value, and idea of how to sell. Where do I start?
